In fact, there are only a number of limited circumstances where an employer could not do this. I'll be second-in-command to the head of the department, and I'll unofficially "oversee" (a modifier for "manage") two employees. But be sure to take into account cost of living too. Typically raises follow the increase in responsibility. He's calling it a "lateral move" (presumably to get out of paying me more money,) but he's expecting me to fulfill all of my current responsibilities, plus giving me more work and more responsibility, including managerial duties. If the title looks better on a resumé it could be a stepping-stone and there are some things that can be learned that would make OP more valuable to a future employer, it could be an investment of sorts. They are serving the public in an establishment that’s disgusting compared to your restaurant. He's right on track as the rest of us are and doesn't get any more compensation for his efforts. February 23, 2016. https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/49lq6h/my_corporate_boss_is_planning_to_give_me_way_more/d0tnm42. Sure, sometimes you’re going to be asked to go above and beyond your duties, and you’ll have to comply because that’s just part of being a team player. I agree with Thunderous. Any advice would be appreciated. Learn about budgeting, saving, getting out of debt, credit, investing, and retirement planning. Of course, I would still shop around and negotiate as much as possible. We do a very specific job for a govt office and the position I'm jumping to is a new one that started a month ago. The unfortunate answer to your question is that it is likely your employer can increase your duties without giving you a raise. One reason may be to get some experience, a better looking title in the CV, and then to jump ship. Now you can do X task.". Pushing yourself out of your comfort zone to take on more responsibility is a great way to grow personally and professionally.It can be uncomfortable and hard at times, but that's what will help you make real progress within an organization. Roughly 39 percent of HR managers today say it is completely common for them to offer an employee a promotion without a pay increase. As I said, I work for a big corporation, and I imagine that there must be systems in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening? Promotions and increases in pay only really come from time with the company and working harder, longer, or better at least here doesn't result in pay increases or promotions. Question: I have a friend who is being given more responsibilities at work but is still being given the same pay. My friend told me that my boss has no plans to give me a raise or a promotion (hence the "lateral move" thing.) ", New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the personalfinance community. People fight almost daily in the place that they work. You just found out that your coworker makes more than you do, even though you both do the same kind of work, you’ve been there longer, and you do a better job. Goes to fancy meetings, literally runs around the office doing tasks. I was offered a promo last year or 2 years ago. A few months pass by, you're training the new guy, and glancing over at his contract, realize he's getting the exact same pay you are getting, for doing about 10% as much work. And once you take the bait you'll work your ass off, and keep working your ass off. The amended Equal Pay Act prohibits an employer from paying any of its employees wage rates that are less than what it pays employees of the opposite sex, or of another race, or of another ethnicity for substantially similar work, when viewed as a composite of skill, effort, and responsibility, and performed under similar working conditions. a promotion will switch me over to the main contractor. Source: I have hired many employees and observed their behavior. Why? You can feel good about your work ethic, know you've done the right thing, but that's it. You're not negotiating unless you're willing to walk away. Press J to jump to the feed. If all you're looking for in a job is to maximize the amount of money you make, I think you're in for fairly middling professional success. Others might assess everyone’s salary at the same time, like each December, often tied to your employer’s fiscal year and budget process. I would love to hear your thoughts on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/49lq6h/my_corporate_boss_is_planning_to_give_me_way_more/d0tnm42. are much less likely to get mad, and more likely to work with you to fix the issue. A month later, after successfully completing X every day, they tell you how good you are. They want you to work yourself ragged trying to impress them. Join our community, read the PF Wiki, and get on top of your finances! I'd certainly try to negotiate for better pay ("I'm interested in the promotion, but it seems like a significant increase in responsibilities for $80 a year, I feel x is more in line with the job requirements, is there any wiggle room in the salary?" As long as he doesn't go hardball about it and endanger the opportunity or piss off a potential employer that he might cross paths with for decades to come, I think it's totally reasonable to try to negotiate. If you really trust your boss, and you really want to do it, at least make him promise you something concrete. Several times over it's happened to me and others I've worked with. First off, is that even normal? They will let you do the work of 5 guys as long as you will do it. For instance, employees who have very strong technical skills may be paid more than a nontechnical person who supervisors a technical team. People yell at them constantly. We don’t tip people who work at McDonalds, though. Such as growth. When an employee earns more than his or her supervisor, it is normally because the employee’s technical skills are worth more than those of the supervisor. If you know others doing the same thing you are doing at other companies make over 25k more, and they want you you to do more, make them come up with a title and a promise of a raise later AT LEAST. Just to further expand on this, obviously I'd say accept the new responsibilities and ramp up your work and give 110% as much as you can. Saying, “I can do it only if you give me more money,” is saying, “It’s possible, but I’m only willing to try for more money.” Do the extra work, update your resume -- if it pays off soon, great, if not, take the updated resume elsewhere. The idea behind is that the managers don't want to pay more for the same job, unless the absence of person causes troubles and they want to avoid the further problems. There is no window unless you make a window. Press J to jump to the feed. I work in Government, and usually this responsibility is given to people with higher grade than I am. perform the same job (equal work) do not get paid the same for the same work (unequal pay) While a claim may be made by an employee based upon the above criteria, an employer can dispute the claim on the grounds that the higher earner has more experience or has seniority and if he can prove this then it will mean that the claim is defeated. This all the way. I think what the OP needs to ask for is the headcount to get the work accomplished. Then go in and say I will accept the promotion for x amount of dollars. Hard work is generally rewarded over time. 1. However it seems people who are hard workers, willing to stay late, log on at home, or work weekends for free are given more tasks, more responsibility, and harder jobs. If OP doesn't get a raise, then there really isn't a promotion, just added responsibilities. That's normal in a way, but more tasks and duties are piled on these people until they eventually just break, quit, and get other jobs. In some companies, it might be around the anniversary of your start date. Join our community, read the PF Wiki, and get on top of your finances! Better to be at the bottom of the ladder you want to climb than the top of one you can't stand and all that. I agree. Cookies help us deliver our Services. 2 jobs can be vastly different based exclusively on cost of living, and you'd look very dumb if you went in and asked for a New York raise, while living in a small mid-west city. I think this is the thinking of someone working a string of entry level jobs rather than someone looking to build a career. Take the position and begin shopping. BREAK THE CYCLE! Unless you're lucky enough to have a ridiculously cool boss, letting them take advantage of you will only encourage them to continue taking advantage of you in teh future. They do this shit all the time. It would be foolish to take on more responsibility with more work without getting better compensation. If I had to pinpoint it, I’d say this curious phenomenon had its origins with the financial crisis of 2008, and it hasn’t abated since the economy has picked back up. Women also have become less likely to be the main spouse to pay bills as more have said this job is now shared equally between partners. This alone summarizes your post. Then 6 months, then a year, then another 6 months go by and you're torn because you know you should quit them but you've worked so hard and you just know they wouldn't do that to you. What if we are in a job that is a very new position, with only a handful of people in the industry doing that job? It either works out great at the current firm or it works out great at a new firm. Everybody else missed the part where you said "lateral" they aren't even giving him a better title. I'm trying to figure out what to say when I have the meeting with him --which is where you guys come in. They Are Self-Disciplined When you finally get too much of it and take up for yourself, they act incredulous, tell you you're not a team player, and your days are numbered because they will already have someone else in mind to pull the same crap on. Few weeks later I was given a raise and still had the same position as before....the raise was the amount of $$ they were gonna give me as a promo. They’re doing almost the same thing. Classic bullshit. Remember, it's business not personal. Always ask questions. Because they are paid minimum wage! Promise and promise about "tomorrow" and tomorrow never comes. The company reneged on the agreement" and take another job making the 30 to 45k difference it would be by that time. Dear Sue: I work for a small firm; we have a total of 10 full time workers and one part-time employee. They want to you take on a lot more work, for no money. For example, say you work in HR, but you’ve been asked to attend some marketing-related conferences because that team is short-staffed. Aaargh. there's not enough there to switch just based off the pay and benefits, but the subcontractor I'm currently with is absolutely horrible. Being made to do more work without more pay is certainly unfair, and there are many things about employment that are unfair. In my experience if you take on the extra work, it just becomes expected. You've been there less than a year. OP is "underpaid 30k" already what makes you think more responsibility will all of a sudden pay off? Cookies help us deliver our Services. If they don't play ball, that's the time you use that extra responsibility to update your CV and find another employer. (According to a Careerbuilder.com survey from 2009, 47% of employees surveyed were taking on the work of 2 or more people for no additional pay). So you take it, everybody wants a shot at moving up. So help? "Hey if this works out, 6 months from now I'm going to expect (a couple bucks an hour raise, whatever)" If he won't agree to that, and you take it, don't be surprised when all your extra hard work gets you nothing but more hard work. When you tell them "you've got to get me some help" and "it's time for a raise" it's always. I declined. I've been working for a big corporation for close to a year, and I've been told that everyone is very happy with my performance. While it could turn out like it did for Thunderous, that doesn't happen as often as you get the shaft. Be both patient and diligent. "Hang in there until we finish this project and we'll take care of you on the next one", or "We'll take care of you at the end of the year" Basically they expect you to keep "chasing a carrot" like a donkey pulling a cart. One thing I might consider is my "friend's" motive in telling me this. If you work for a company that generally gives raises once a year, pay attention to when that normally happens. When I work with young team leaders I often ask them to do same; leave the team - in your case your organisation - alone for a while and see how they operate without them. Right now I'm working for a subcontractor making $44720, just got offered a promotion which will switch me over to the main contractor and they only offered $44800, I looked through the benefits package and there's not enough there to switch just based off the pay and benefits, but the subcontractor I'm currently with has some issues I can't tolerate for much longer. Some people can be hired into an office that's been perfectly fine for years and within two weeks turn it into a festering hellhole with unfounded gossip that takes years to repair. I wouldn't do it. Be aware that if you decline the promotion the company could get mad and let you go. Do some research and see what others are being paid to preform the same responsibilities. (sometimes the lateral move explanation is because the boss is a bit of a dick; but often it's so they can move you back in a few months without a huge loss of face if you aren't up to the new role.). They offered it yesterday and I got an extra day to consider, so I shouldve posted this yesterday but I didn't think about it. He just mindlessly keeps at it. Words are wind. Especially for a first job out of college, a much more important question should be where will he learn the most? March 7, 2011 Pay for Employees Performing More than One Job Q&A. This is a non-monetary reason to consider the "promotion". I worked out the numbers etc and what they were giving me wasn't enough to take on more responsibilities. It may seem like an obvious yes, but the answer is actually no, says Sage Pastel Payroll & HR. But even if there is no change, I could see there might be reasons why OP might want to take the promotion with no change in price. Promises don't put food on the table. this is my first job out of college, thus my complete lack of knowledge on how to deal, thanks for any help. I was hired three years ago as a customer service representative and my responsibilities were to answer the phone, do light filing, data entry and sales. If the subcontractor OP is currently working for is difficult to work for, it might actually be a more comfortable environment, even if there are more duties/responsibilities if the environment is better (though it's up to OP to do some research and see how the morale of people who work for that contractor is). A Lack of Work… It would be foolish to take on more responsibility with more work without getting better compensation. Some HR managers noted that there may be pay disparity between two people performing the same job because one was hired at a time when market demand for his or her skills was lower than it is now. Like I said I know exactly how you feel. Is it unfair to pay two different employees a different wage or remuneration for the same work? They prey on your desire to advance with this "we need you to move up, but we can't give you a title or a raise, but you do a good job at this for us and we'll take good care of you in the future". You can now market yourself with the new title, ask another company for the salary you want, and cherry on the top is telling your boss about how it's not selling him out, its just a lateral move. I would take on extra responsibility for the same pay if it significantly improved my work environment. Never work for free. Quit, apply for new job, repeat. So when you do get tired of it and go, you won't want to put "Manager" as a title for your present job because they will deny you were such. Either way good luck and make the most out of the situation. Nothing makes a job miserable faster than a bad boss—particularly the kind who has no qualms overworking the staff. Paid off handsomely. I'm in my late 20's. OP: I would say something to them like "I enjoy what I'm doing and who I'm working with now, and I'm learning a lot. Played ball, busted my ass for years, and got nothing for it. If you have employees who want to work additional jobs for extra pay, you need to … That said, there aren't that many times when you can get a pay jump just by speaking up, and starting a new job is one of those times. Specifically the EPA provides that employers may not pay unequal wages to men and women who perform jobs that require substantially equal skill, effort and responsibility, and that are performed under similar working conditions within the same establishment. I understand exactly where you're at and a good worker and a good guy wants to work hard and do a good job but THAT is exactly what they take advantage of. Learn about budgeting, saving, getting out of debt, credit, investing, and retirement planning. And second to that, what sets him on the course he wants to take through his life? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Continue kicking ass and either 1) good things will happen when you ask for them or 2) you get out after year 2. At my recent appraisal, my work had glowing feedback and it was acknowledged I did far more than was originally in my job description, but I was told I would not get a pay … Then when you've had enough of it, they don't come up with any money, and you're looking for a job when you've been doing a manager's job with no manager's pay and no manager's position. Great in theory. Try these tips. They may have worked in the same department for decades and are satisfied with the small annual pay increases, and they shied away from or even refused more responsibility when they could. Thank you! 40% of respondents to Glassdoor’s Q3 2015 employment confidence survey said that they value health insurance more than a pay raise. And whether he's telling my reactions to this news to others in management. More work without a raise means you're labor is actually decreasing in value. Example: This one guy here has been busting his butt for 1-2 years longer than I have. Which you should have been making the whole time. Here in our company, I'm in my late 20's along with 90% of the department. I have been told many times to research what others in my field are making, but it's not a "real job" in the sense that I can't look up what others are making who do the same work. Others have started, gotten treated similarly, and bailed for new jobs for more money. Is there any room for negotiation on the salary? Also remember that every employment contract contains implied duties of trust and confidence, and good faith. A year later, the two of us who accepted the responsibility received a sizable pay increase and the guy who turned it down received nothing and basically screwed his chances at advancement. Works 7 days a week, stays late every night, then logs on at home. Ive never done this before, even when i started they seemed to be the type who just try to talk fast and overwhelm you to the point that you cant get a word in, much less a negotiation. How To Explain Why You Want A Lower-Paying, Lesser-Responsibility Job Peggy McKee. If you do the same, people (bosses, friends, etc.) The reasons for this are manifold. … If they want me to do more shit, they better pay more right off the bat. Sometimes sticking your neck out and taking on responsibility will help move you up the pecking order. A healthy work/life balance, an acceptable amount of work, good benefits, a positive work environment, and a clearly defined reward system, all help keep employees happy. Institutions are advised to complete and submit an HR31 request formto the relevant HR School Team to request, amend or extend an additional responsibility payment. More often than not it does NOT pay off. I was one of three who received it, one turned it down because it did not come with higher pay. Employer is going to have a change in heart and decide to be generous all of a sudden? Patiently waited while busting my ass. How do i do research on that exactly? Your boss seems happy. Also, for developmental reasons it might be worth it. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. However it seems people who are hard workers, willing to stay late, log on at home, or work weekends for free are given more tasks, more responsibility, and harder jobs. I'll tell you exactly what that means. But do be keen on seeing where this is going over the next few months and if there is any promotion, bonus, or increase in pay on the way. It's happened to me and several other good but naive people I've worked with. It takes some cost/benefit analysis, and every situation is different. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. He has been with his job for 4 years and has not been given a pay raise. Increasing Responsibilities, Same Pay. Such as growth. When it comes down to cash in, they won't remember giving those promises. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Basically if you let them shit on you, they will keep shoveling more and more shit on you. 10. While Government is different than the Private sector, sometimes due to various factors, companies won't give out pay raises at various times of the year. Why aren’t they tipped? Tomorrow never comes bud. More and more work comes in from new products, new ventures, etc.. and we're all expect to do more. It can be dangerous to agree to more if it impacts your ability to satisfy the job requirements that you were hired to do. When Your Primary Job Responsibilities Will Suffer. That way at least if they screw you later and never come up with the money, you have a better title on your resume and when interviewing with prospective employers and they ask why you want to leave your current job you can look them in the eye and say "They gave me a promotion a year and a half ago, I took on the extra responsibility and workload in exchange for a promise of a raise after a year. Anonymous * November 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm. One co-worker even took a demotion in order to avoid additional responsibilities. it's not selling him out, its just a lateral move. Now you're also in charge of Y. If they say no, then decline the promotion. Find more ways to say responsibility, along with related words, antonyms and example phrases at Thesaurus.com, the world's most trusted free thesaurus. That just around the bend they'll make it right. This is exactly correct. Some people like to rile other people up just to watch the drama. Hey, maybe he'll be CEO someday, but currently it doesn't seem like his efforts are paying off. [say this stuff even if it isn't true] This would be an easy decision if there was a clear pay rise involved, but there isn't. I agree completely. you do great work, your boss takes advantage of it... but now you have a stronger resume, and you can go get more money someplace else. If this happens then you will really know what it's like to "feel manipulated and taken advantage of". I mean REALLY busting his butt. Edit: i know it's annoying but I can only give out so many details, trying to keep my security clearance. And unofficially oversee != manage. I've been there. I don't want to be taken advantage of, but I also don't want to completely alienate my boss. I make a decent salary, objectively speaking, but I make 30K below the average annual salary for my city/position... At any rate, a friend who works in management informed me that my boss is in the process of giving me a new role/title. More and more work comes in from new products, new ventures, etc.. and we're all expect to do more. If they say no, then decline the promotion. Not always true. and if they can't/won't budge on salary, see if they can offer more paid time off.). Can't say the same will happen for you, but if it doesn't, worst case scenario is that you can update your resume and post out with a new skillset that makes you more marketable for higher level jobs. A good place to compare what others are making, with a degree, in a certain location, with a bunch of other variables is (payscale.com)[payscale.com]. Career expert Lindsey Pollak says it … Both times I've played ball - took the responsibilities and worked hard despite the immediate lack of promotion. For further information or advice please contact your HR School Team. the subcontractor I'm currently with is absolutely horrible. Also, get all promises in writing. This happens if you've been promoted or changed positions with an employer. Do i just ask if theres a window of negotiability here? Then go in and say I will accept the promotion for x amount of dollars. Show you can do more for a few months, and then ask for a raise based on the higher responsibility. Some of the terms and conditions of your employment include an employee’s title, pay, working hours, work location, or job responsibilities. There's a big difference between a technical team lead and the guy that makes hiring/firing/performance evaluations, and you won't know the difference until you get there. Never work for free. Including multiple jobs from the same company on your resume is tricky. Another word for responsibility. My first job was one of these... do a good job and the boss says "That's really good! Do some research and see what others are being paid to preform the same responsibilities. Of course, until very recently, there was no affordable public health insurance option, and the only feasible way for most Americans to afford insurance was through their employer. I realize that I always have the option of looking for another job, but I'm happy where I am; I just don't want to feel manipulated and taken advantage of. And now, you're ready to take on more. 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